General-Purpose bragging topic!

[The Tapir]

Well, if it's true that only 3 victories have been achieved on HGT with the Goatperson (probably isn't, but regardless), I guess that can now be increased to 4. Just decided to go through with him to see how hard it was. Prepped Magnet Fireball, Compression Seal (idk why), perserverance badge, balanced dagger, quest items, and black market alongside potions (WHUPAZ, reflex, quicksilver).

Anyways, got into the dungeon to find myself in front of 3-4 level 1-2 enemies, meaning food with no waste of blackspace. Levelled with balanced dagger, finding Halpmeh and Getindare along the way alongside shops with both Viper Ward and Soul Orb. The first 2 floors weren't too difficult, as Getindare was excellent for finishing people off and Halpmeh working for more hits. Did run into an issue with the 3rd floor being the "flush of insight", but dodge stacks payed off twice (lucky me) and I found Crystal ball, which helped drastically with dealing with the multiple wraiths I found. Horatio went down with the specialized potions alongside one conversion and a health potion for finishing him off. Though I did find pactmaker, being stuck with Binlor and Earthmother with no way to earn piety for either meant that I could never benefit from scholar's pact.

I guess I got pretty lucky with the items that spawned, but the tower didn't feel as hard with goatman as it's been chalked up to me. Obviously VGT is a different beast entirely, though if a mediocre player like me can get through the tower then there have to be more than just the 3 recorded successes.

[Tinker]

Not so much bragging, but definitely interesting how lucky a run can get:

I was just messin' around in Naga City, going for a light fun game, but the stars were aligned like never before. I didn't prepare BURNDAYRAZ, yet it spawned right next to me; I did not prepare quest items, yet my shops spawned Dragon Soul, Battlemage Ring, and Crystal Ball. Interesting fact: as I had 30 max Mana, the 14 Mana Potions I had at the end would have been sufficient for another 33.6 fireballs (not counting the dragon soul). Just out of curiousity, I reduced Kinissch's Magic Resistance to zero via five uses of Weakening. Who said that Gnome wasn't a great race to get "feeling parched"...

[Lujo]

Amazing luck - and also fine, fine demo of massive weakening spam. That guy's supposed not to be so easy to fireball, and you're kinda supposed to want to juggle gods... But no XD Mystera all the way?

[Tinker]

[Astral]

Beautiful job! I love your early game kills too.

It must be me who said gnomes aren't good at grabbing Feeling Parched. You proved that with enough skill and luck anything is possible.

Though if you planned on getting that badge in the 1st place you would have been better off with another race. Even if converting potions for piety was in the cards, at least a halfling is better.

From my experience nullifying the resistance of a boss is rarely worth it, but I like doing it too, just for the kicks.

[Tinker]

[Lujo]

You guys are being silly, how is doubling your fireball damage on a guy who intends to use fireballs and using piety you get from casting fireballs in order to kill a boss who's been designed to spell "don't even bother using fireballs only because of this one feature otherwise he'd be a pushover for fireball users" - "rarely worth it except for kicks"? It's basically the only thing you need, everything ELSE you do is "just for kicks" XD

Sure, you can mop up 20 with a chaos avatar, but why exactly bother? Get that and a refill+ for double the piety of two weakenings? What else could you spend the piety on after having worshiped Mystera for a full level, more refills? You were sitting on a mountain of refills except you were trying to go parched on a Gnome, which is rarely ever worth it, but people still do it just for kicks. Removing magic resistance on a guy who's balanced to not be firballed easily because all your fireballs do half damage is supreme cheese, not something you do just 'cause. It's one of the (if not the) closest thing to an actual balance-bypassing hack still left in the game.

The other one is cleansing, the "lolpwn" button to bypass physical resistance on stuff who's sole purpose is to have physical resistance with even less effort.

If you don't think so, go melee curse monsters with a monk. That's not ment to be an insult, just, really, go lose all your resists when you're designed around having resists and see how "trivial" losing them is. Or go do VGT with no resist stacking at all, because, hey, resists, people stack those just cause they feel like it... It's hardly the most impactful stat in the game -.-

[Astral]

I was speaking in general. So let's say we remove the first 20% of his resistance, most of the characters I use can already kill Kinisssch with fireballs then and there. Any further Weakenings/Stone Hearts are just for showing off.

I'm a big lover of Elfs, and if I was using one it's quite likely that the piety I'd spend on further resist stripping is put to better use for refills under GG/JJ/EM.

Don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting that resist stripping is pointless, just that the optimal use is stripping some and then getting more refills.

It's very easy to see that the more resistances you strip the smaller and smaller benefits you gain. Take away 25% MR from Iron Man and you doubled your fireball strength. Another doubling requires 50% removal though.
Or I could bring up Paladin Gold. I used Bysseps on Ssseth quite extensively, but each time I went in with an Orc I could regenfight him to death sooner then removing the last of his resists.

[Lujo]

Yeah, I know, good point, those last 10 or 20 % aren't necessarily that worth it (allthough it IS a slotless battlemage ring, mind you), and well if you are for some reason playing elf (not worth it in general, but I guess people do it for kicks anyway - srry couldn't help myself XD) then you'd obviously want some refills somewhere too and all that.

It's just that if a boss is the last boss you're killing, and he's got MR, chances ussually are that if you can take that away the rest of him can't withstand a decent fireball barrage. Which often means that it's the no.1 thing to do once you're happy with your buildup, and the reason people can ussually finish off removing them even through diminishing returns is becase if you've removed enough you've pretty much won right there.

[Astral]

Lol at the elf bit

Yeah, it's true that if you can't go melee (even if by Pisorf), then resist stripping is the first priority.