Extreme East Spoiler and Discussion Thread

[shade_of_ox]

Isn't part 3 Warmonger Vampire in TL? You don't have to kill all the bosses in TL. Only Victroll himself has the gore effect around him, right? That means he's the only boss you actually have to kill, the rest are optional. Bring a Strength potion to counter Essence Drain. I suggest killing the Ensnare boss, and depending on your shops, the Crazed Regen boss (who is pretty easy for a vampire). There's not much point in actually killing much else, because most of them are almost impossible to kill for this build.

[Nurator]

Oh ok that makes much more sense! They dont even give XP

I will keep you posted! Any progress on the triple quest?

[srid]

I have never used the refund wand yet, but I guess it could be totally worth it for a Bard, that gets all the CP straight up.
I tend to prefer the membership badge, but it will indeed get nerfed soon.

[shade_of_ox]

I killed 2/3 of the bosses in the second part. I think what you want to do is carry as many glyphs as you can from the first part (actually I was thinking that maybe More Glyphs would be a decent prep), so you can outlevel the bosses here as much as possible. It's pretty clear Gharbad is only killable with magic, so BURNDAYRAZ or PISORF (from Binlor) is necessary. I prefer BURNDAYRAZ, because it hurts the bosses' regen a LOT, as they're only level 5. Best to take on Digby last, or at least after Vince, so Weakening doesn't do that much. TT is a free desecrate once you're fighting Digby if you have WEYTWUT, which I'm taking with me from part 1.

[shade_of_ox]

OK, I got to the Gilded Goat. Got to the Fast Regen form before I ran out of resources. Here are some thoughts:

Fast Regen + Snared is not a good time. I had BYSSEPS and no good shop items except a Cursed Cutlass. Leveled to 9, taking Blood Curse when going down (I didn't realize I'd have altars available at the bottom). I ended up with 4 stacks of lifesteal, which was pretty good - I think the main strat for the top is to get something like 3 lifesteal, then take some sanguine in order to earn more piety with the bloodpools on the bottom as well as to get some nice bonus EXP. Not clear on what PM is good for, because all the pacts are useless as far as I can tell. Maybe just Consensus for some extra bloodswells. With bloodpools on the surface I could have definitely gone to level 10 without Blood Curse, at least after killing the first wave of goats.

APHEELSIK and PISORF are probably good because BURNDAYRAZ completely ruins the Crusader. I used WEYTWUT from the start of the game for leveling most of the time. Resists are worthless, but Platemail is obviously a very good item. Serpentine Shield might be a good item to steal, but it's probably not worth the price. I wish I brought more TT potions with me from part 2. Jehora in both part 1 and 2 is a bad move. I'd like a different god in part 1, I think, because Chaos Avatar in part 2 is very good for the extra level. Maybe TT in part 1, for the GETINDARE and potions.

I'm not even close to winning so far, am I?

[The Avatar]

[shade_of_ox]

Well, I couldn't think of many gods that would help in the first part. So far I've just been trying to GET to the third part, not actually have a winning strategy. Obviously the JJ penalty hurts since that's one less glyph you can carry from part 1, though I wasn't expecting no glyphs to spawn in parts 2 or 3. The WEYTWUT is nice for part 1, because if the boss blinks somewhere that doesn't have plants nearby, you're just screwed. However, I've gotten better at cutting a narrow path through the plants, so that's not really necessary. Besides, I get WEYTWUT from Jehora in part 2 anyway.

"Excellent" shop items probably won't be showing up - I cleared all my veto slots before doing this.

[Nurator]

Some tips:

Part 1: Mysteras Refreshment is HUGE, dont underestimate the additional power you get from actually having mana when you trigger Spirit Sword. Also, more glyphs is a good prep, as it helps you manage the thresholds better (you should never trigger two thresholds at once) and with starting LEMMISI, you can easily scum for good glyphs. Additionally, make sure you use LEMMISI (or even better BLUDTOPOWA) to get your first hit on the boss without converting anything.

Part 2: My goto strat was to go Binlor -> TT for PISORF and knockback and might for easy piety farming. Then before you kill popcorn, go TT for learning and later on a ton of reflex/dodge potions (I think I had 4 of both in my winning attempt). Also dont hesitate to spent one reflex/dodge combo on Garbard, it makes a huge difference. Then a PISORF/BLUDTOPOWA combo with maybe one or two levelups in between and he is an easy target.

Part 3: The most important part here is to get to lvl 9/10 before going down. If you are able to do that, you are fine I never managed to get 3 lifesteal here and instead went for the easier 15% resist + 2 lifesteal, but you seem to have that done too.

Boss: Sadly, you are not even close to the actual challenge. You probably noticed the first phases ability and how PISORF can effectively be used to get rid of the shield, right? Reflex Potions give you two strikes and the shield is not triggered, making it effectively four strikes

I hope these tips help to bring you further, until you have more information

[shade_of_ox]

Part 1: Really? Refreshment? I don't really know about that. The boss goes down pretty quick anyway, especially with strength potion. I think I'll just stay with TT, if only for the extra money (and you don't lose piety from hitting the boss, either). More glyphs might be worth a try, but I don't have a problem managing the conversion bar here, so I would just be taking CP away from the glyphs I'm taking to the future parts.

Part 2: I can see Binlor being helpful just because WEYTWUT isn't nearly as helpful as PISORF. TT is a decent replacement for JJ levelingwise, and the potions are helpful, though with decent play in part 1 I can probably earn a decent amount of them (on the other hand, you can buy more health potions than usual in part 2). BLUDTOPOWA sounds... really nice actually. I'll look into that. It's especially great for part 1 for controlling the conversion bar more efficiently, and synergizes with TT pretty well, too.

Part 3: We must have pretty different playstyles if I managed to get 4 lifesteal in my first attempt and you didn't even have 3!
That being said, 4 lifesteal is WAYY better than 2 lifesteal and 15% resists, especially when you factor in Platemail.


What item did you prep? I was using Dwarven Gauntlets, now I've switched to Cursed Cutlass because of the TT build.

[Nurator]

If you manage to get out 2-3 glyphs in part 1, you are fine. Getting Reflex potions in part 1 is a great idea, never thought about that and maybe you can buy other potions in the second part *hint hint*

I also just have to accept that you are the better player, so you have that advantage in part 3 I always prepped Cursed Cutlass, just as it helps everyone