Improving and Changing Gods!

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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby The Avatar on Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:06 pm

Then you could have 15 or so fireball damage per level and no attack, which as a bloodmage with a keg of mana and 18 or 24 mp could wreck everything.

I still suggest removing the penalties for all boons and raising cost or making piety gain harder if possible.
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby gjaustin on Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:27 pm

dislekcia wrote:
TigerKnee wrote:If Earthmother drops the Item Conversion boon (really only useful for Orcs) in favor of some super boon for a piety dump I think she'll be okay. Her "secret" boon is that you get a lot of plants to stone (as opposed to having to stone actual exp giving enemies) and thus get a lot of bonus exp. Most games where I worship her I end up with level 9 which is quite nice.


You can get the bonus experience effect by petrifying non-experience granting enemies? That's not right...


You know, I never actually verified that I was getting bonus exp. Rather I was assuming that I was.

I'll check next time I play.
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Re: Taurog, Binlor, and Tiki Tooki

Postby JonahHollow on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:23 pm

dislekcia wrote:
JonahHollow wrote:reworking alot of things and adding in demi gods to the piety system sounds like a very interesting idea.


Um, very no?

That would take another 4 months of work AND while we were rolling out the god concepts you lot would basically be saying "No, this is all fucked and useless, start again again" the entire time ;)

:shock: No I said it was interesting, but in a later post I said I like the current religion system more and that it should be perfected upon.
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby Darvin on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:51 am

One boon I'm increasingly questioning is Blood Hunger. While it will usually pay for itself if you pick it as your first boon, it's just not very good for high-level characters and the piety cost keeps it out of the hands of low-level characters. With two very strong alternatives from Blood Power and Blood Shield, I really can't see picking this one up. Most characters will never run into the max-resist issue, but for those who do this one really feels a lot like Mystera's magic boon; the penalty outweighs the benefits.
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby The Avatar on Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:04 pm

I have only ever used it once and I did not benefit, thy really should change it...
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby q 3 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:39 pm

Lifesteal is hard to balance; too weak and no one has any use for it, too strong and you can easily become invincible. Making it a little cheaper on the low end but more expensive on the high end might be a beneficial tweak, say, changing the piety cost to 10+10 (and possibly having it reduce max resistance by 15% each time to compensate for the first few levels being less expensive).
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby gjaustin on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:49 pm

Was Lifesteal percentage based in the alpha or am I remembering that incorrectly?

Regardless of whether it was or not, making it percentage would make it useful at all levels and would provide more balancing options.
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby JonahHollow on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:53 pm

I always get the lifesteal boon, and I don't really have a problem getting Piety from Dracul. I just choose carefully what I want to spend it on, the most lifesteal I've gotten was 15. But I think on that playthrough I also used the healing boon once as well.
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby Crawly McCrawlsa on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:59 pm

My problem with it is that I would only use it on a character with high resistances because that's what it's most effective with. The problem is you can only get 1 level of it before the max resistance loss makes it worthless to add levels to. Unless you pick it up very early on in the dungeon, it won't pay itself off either. All around it needs some changes, simply because it's his weakest boon. On any hard or vicious dungeon, it simply doesn't help.
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Re: Improving and Changing Gods!

Postby JonahHollow on Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:01 pm

I think when I did it, it was with a Paladin on a hard dungeon. I agree though that it could/should be changed.
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