"Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

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"Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby Drizzt611 on Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:23 pm

Hello, first time poster here. I think your game is pretty cool thanks for making it so cheap.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain that the puzzle Positioning in the Starter pack has been rendered unsolvable by some recent change. I attempted it myself about a dozen times then looked it up online and found that I was already using the most optimal strategy. That strategy was as follows:

(sorry total spoiler fail here, used [spoiler]text[/spoiler] and gave up when that didn't work)
1. Push goat down.
2. Kill goat with melee.
3. Switch places with zombie.
4. Convert WEYTWUT into a potion, drink potion and take attack power-up.
5. Push goat to the left.
6. Grab potions and drink two.
7. Go back to damaged goat and push it left to kill it.
8. Use PISORF three times on the middle goat to kill it.
9. Push left goblin.
10. Kill goblin.
11. Push right goblin.
12. Kill right goblin.

However I noticed that every time I tried this, I was 1 mana short of being able to do the last push. Of course, that inevitably results in the character's death and starting over the puzzle.

Am I actually just doing something wrong, or is this a new problem that just hasn't been pointed out to the devs yet? If the second one, hopefully they will see this and fix it soon...
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby paplaukes on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:33 pm

Hey,

I've just purchased the game (probably around the time you made the post) and didn't have troubles there.
Just replayed it, spoiler seems fine except for "8." only needs 2 casts.
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby gjaustin on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:42 pm

Yep, there's a mistake in there. You shouldn't be using PISORF three times on the middle goat.

Try pushing him diagonally :)
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby Drizzt611 on Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:43 am

Wow. Here I thought I had looked into it enough to not make me look stupid the first time I posted on this forum. But I always forget about those tricky diagonals.

Thanks a bunch... better luck next time I guess hehe
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby gjaustin on Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:32 am

Drizzt611 wrote:Wow. Here I thought I had looked into it enough to not make me look stupid the first time I posted on this forum. But I always forget about those tricky diagonals.

Thanks a bunch... better luck next time I guess hehe


Glad to help.

Of course, one of the previous updates did actually break that puzzle, so you just picked the wrong time to try it :)
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby Crawly McCrawlsa on Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:43 am

I just completed it yesterday, so It's still doable. They made you a gnome wizard so that converting still gets you mana now. (clever fix devs ;) )
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby wreak havoc (i hope) on Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:03 pm

Hi, it seems that this puzzle has been changed since last time the fine people in this thread talked about it. It now looks like this:

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I have tried some two dozen times, but I can't seem to finish it. I can get the enemies down to 1 goat (and the boss) and killing that last goat would get me to level 2, but I am always short on HP by that time, so the last goat always defeats me.

Any hints would be much appreciated :-)
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby dislekcia on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:05 am

wreak havoc (i hope) wrote:Hi, it seems that this puzzle has been changed since last time the fine people in this thread talked about it. It now looks like this:

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I have tried some two dozen times, but I can't seem to finish it. I can get the enemies down to 1 goat (and the boss) and killing that last goat would get me to level 2, but I am always short on HP by that time, so the last goat always defeats me.

Any hints would be much appreciated :-)


The puzzle is definitely doable - try to maximise the amount of damage you deal with your Pisorf casts: Remember that knocking something into a wall does more damage than knocking two enemies into each other.
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby toutomoutochan on Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:49 am

I've also been having problems with this puzzle. One thing I noticed is that when it tells me to convert WEYTWUT for an attack bonus, my attack doesn't go up. Is this a bug?

Also, is there a walkthrough/solution for this anywhere in case I just give up on hitting my head against it without getting anywhere?
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Re: "Positioning" Puzzle in Starter Pack Broken?

Postby Darvin on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:41 pm

toutomoutochan wrote:I've also been having problems with this puzzle. One thing I noticed is that when it tells me to convert WEYTWUT for an attack bonus, my attack doesn't go up. Is this a bug?

There's a rounding issue going on. Your attack bonus does increase, but it just gets rounded down so you don't get any benefit from it. However, when combined with that attack booster it will increase your damage.

Also, is there a walkthrough/solution for this anywhere in case I just give up on hitting my head against it without getting anywhere?

There are, but they keep getting misplaced. Anyhow, I can provide a solution:

1) swap positions with the goblin
2) convert the glyph, grab the attack booster
3) kill the goat guarding the mana potions, then pick up everything
4) use a mana potion, position yourself directly above the far-right goat
5) use the pisorf glyph on the goat twice
6) drink your remaining mana potions and position yourself directly right of the hidden goat
7) use pisorf twice on the hidden goat
8) kill the two remaining goats
9) kill the goblin
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