dislekcia wrote:Yeah. Like I said: ignore/invalidate.
As long as you fail to ask why people could possibly have fun hunting items, you're not going to have a balanced viewpoint.
People have fun shooting up heroin, skydiving and listening to opera. But forcing someone who doesn't enjoy such an activity to participate just because there's someone who can enjoy it is simply wrong.
As far as the functionality of getting an item in your locker or veto slot is concerned, in order to play the actual game, scumming for it or pressing a "screen freezes for some time and the item appears in your veto slot" button is identical. Well, to be fair, if there was such a button it'd be more reasonable to have your comp lock up because then you could go to the bathroom, while the other option right now means starting a venture cave run with a goblin transmuter, holding down the "l" key and then clicking on all the shops, and repeating until the desired item comes up.
In other words - there is an "auto-locker/veto" function right now, for most items in the game, and it only takes willpower to go through an inane routine and RL time spent on it instead of playing Desktop Dungeons. In all other respects it works perfectly - burn enough time and you're guaranteed to veto what you want to veto.
This is undisputable, it's a fact.
Now some people might find it enjoyable to pick a goblin transmuter up and hold down the "l" key, then move a little to regen mana, then hold down the "l" key again, then move a little more, then holding down the "l" key, and then click on all the shops, and repeat until the desired item appears and repeating it for every locker/veto slot they want to change - that's also a fact. My brother used to spend afternoons repeatedly doing solo Baal runs in Diablo 2 (teleport to the guy skipping everything else) for hours and hours on the off chance Baal drops something - I know there are people who enjoy that sort of thing.
But those people being accommodated better than people who actually want to play the game is utter bullshit, to which you could say "that's just your opinion, man", keep ignoring/invalidating it, and continue catering to whoever likes mindless grind. But trying to make it look like I'm in the wrong or that there's something wrong with my reasoning here is just lying.
We suggested a compromise - pay ludicrous gold to not have to scum for a particular item, or scum for a time investment as it is now. That wasn't good enough because "people would be complaining that the price is too steep". Who cares? As long as it stays the way it is now you can't call any complainer an ingrate, because he's got nothing to be grateful for concerning this issue. Insisting on it being fine is just insulting to anyone who isn't into grind and there's no other way to look at it.
If there was an either/or option, you'd have the scummers scumming, and everybody else playing the game, getting the gold for playing the game, and spending the gold to make their game more varied. And all's well. That's also a fact.